High-quality vitamin and mineral compound with taurine and arginine for all cats.NEKTON-Cat-VM contains all essential vitamins and minerals for cats, plus the amino-sulfonic acid taurine, and the amino acid arginine. All ingredients have been specially adjusted to the cat's needs. Vitamins, minerals and trace elements count among the essential active substances for cats - which are not formed by the body, or not able to be formed in a sufficient amount. Therefore, they always have to be supplied via the feed. NEKTON-Cat-VM protects against diet-related deficiencies and supports a controlled metabolism. A highly-effective basic compound for optimal vitamin and mineral supply for the cat.Cats are exclusively meat eaters (so-called "carnivores") and their feed requirements thus differ from dogs, which have developed in the direction of omnivores, and in some aspects have a different metabolism.The feed administered to the domestic cat by people does not often correspond to their natural diet and does not always take into consideration the needs of this regular meat eater. Cats covers their requirements for meat, fat, trace elements, vitamins and minerals almost naturally by consuming their whole prey, including the coat, entrails, stomach and intestines.The features of cat nutrition lie in vitamins, proteins and minerals. This specialization of the metabolism can lead to a shortage of the essential dietary constituents, particularly under high stress (high performance requirements, shows, illnesses, etc.)ARGININE is an essential amino acid and component in the urine circulation in the body. Both young and older cats require arginine. If this substance is lacking, ammonia concentration in the blood set in, which can be connected to salivation, vomiting, shivering, convulsions, unconsciousness and death within a short time and is often confused with the animal being poisoned.TAURINE is also an essential amino-sulfonic acid, the intake of which is necessary for nutrition. Cats can only generate the required bile acids with a sufficient supply of taurine. Furthermore, the taurine intake needs to be increased with the increasing intake of fiber in the feed. A taurine deficiency ca lead to impaired fertility. The young of mothers' with a taurine deficiency exhibit multiple neurological defects, eye defects and blindness.No other vitamin compound should be administered whilst using NEKTON-Cat-VM.

NEKTON-Biotic-Bird 50 g &middot Probiotikum für Vögel

NEKTON-Booster is specifically formulated to meet the needs of birds that require rapidly available energy during training and competition. The balanced combination of active ingredients in NEKTON-Booster enables birds to achieve peak performance. The product is particularly suitable for racing pigeons and falcons.NEKTON-Booster contains branched-chain amino acids (BCAAs), which ensure maximum energy production during flight, as well as soy protein isolate, which is absorbed very quickly by the body and therefore supports muscle development and muscle regeneration.NEKTON-Booster is an excellent source of energy, increases endurance, strength, and activity, and at the same time counteracts fatigue. Thanks to its balanced composition, NEKTON-Booster is also ideally suited for use during rearing to support muscle development in young birds.The product is highly water-soluble, and due to its structure, the active substances are made available to the bird’s body within a short time directly after intake.NEKTON-Booster contains:BCAA: BCAA refers to three different branched-chain amino acids - valine, leucine, and isoleucine. These amino acids are essential, meaning they cannot be produced by the body and must be supplied through nutrition. Each of these amino acids fulfills specific, vital bodily functions. In addition, the combination of these three BCAAs provides beneficial effects on muscle development and muscle regeneration. Muscles benefit from a rapid energy supply, and even after flight, muscles are quickly supplied with amino acids. Leucine and isoleucine are of particular importance, as they play a major role in muscle protein synthesis.Magnesium carbonate: Supports muscle function and additionally stimulates energy metabolism.Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM): A highly effective, nature-identical sulfur compound that supports bodily functions and strengthens the overall regenerative capacity of the bird’s organism. Sulfur increases the resilience of tendons, ligaments, and cartilage of the musculoskeletal system, which is especially important under increased strain during flight. As a result, NEKTON-Booster can help minimize the risk of stress-related damage to the shoulder joint (so-called “slanted flight”) during flight. Furthermore, sulfur has a positive effect on plumage, improving the bird’s overall appearance. Methylsulfonylmethane also has a positive influence on the immune system and strengthens the bird’s natural defenses.Soy protein isolate: A protein with high biological value and a balanced amino acid profile. Unlike other plant-based proteins, soy protein is absorbed very quickly by the body, rapidly enters the bloodstream and muscles, and can be converted into the body’s own proteins. Soy protein is therefore ideal for rapid muscle development.Thanks to its unique composition, NEKTON-Booster provides birds with optimal energy for peak performance while simultaneously supporting the musculature and musculoskeletal system both during and after flight.

Probiotic supplement for cats.NEKTON-Biotic-Cat is a supplementary feed which was specially developed for the stabilization of the physiological digestion of cats. Ideal for indigestion, in case of stress, during regeneration phases after surgery or illness and after antibiotic treatments.Cats suffer frequently from indigestion. The causes are varied and often not exactly known. Many digestive problems occur with illness, stress, or after antibiotic treatments. But also changes in feed or incorrect feeding (cold feed, high in sugar or fat) are often cited as causes. As a result of these factors, the balance of the intestine is affected. The pH value and the composition of the important intestinal fl ora are changed, to which the organism can react sensitively. However, a constant environment in the intestine is important for its function - the best possible utilization of food. A healthy gut is also important for the well-being of the cat.NEKTON-Biotic-Cat helps to stabilize the intestinal flora and uses purely natural active ingredients.NEKTON-Biotic-Cat contains a particularly high number of Enterococcus faecium bacteria. This probiotic strain improves the consistency of the faeces, regulates the pH value in the intestine, so that an optimal habitat is created for the entire health-promoting intestinal flora. On the other hand, pathogenic (disease-causing) germs (such as salmonella and clostridia) are suppressed. The added vegetable ingredients such as ground fl axseed, oat bran, psyllium husks, Jerusalem artichoke and apple pomace are rich in fiber and facilitate digestion in a gentle way and help to calm the intestines. They have a prebiotic effect and serve as an important source of food for the benefi cial intestinal bacteria. This encourages their growth. At the same time, unwanted bacteria that can upset the balance of the good intestinal fl ora are suppressed. Furthermore, NEKTON-Biotic-Cat contains mannanoligosaccharides, which have proven to be particularly useful for cats. In addition to the increase in important types of bacteria and the production of short-chain fatty acids, they also support the cat‘s immune system by preventing harmful germs from adhering to the intestines. In this way, pathogens no longer remain in the animal‘s body and are excreted. The coconut fl our added has a high proportion of numerous minerals such as calcium, phosphorus, iron and zinc. It also provides healthy fatty acids.NEKTON-Biotic-Cat contains brewer‘s yeast, which naturally provides the organism with numerous micronutrients such as B vitamins, minerals and trace elements, as well as proteins with a complete set of amino acids.Furthermore, NEKTON-Biotic-Cat contains L-arginine and taurine, which are essential for cats. L-arginine is an essential amino acid and a component of the body‘s urea cycle. Both young and older cats have a high requirement for arginine. Taurine is also an essential amino sulfonic acid that must be obtained from the diet. Cats can only form the necessary bile acid with an adequate supply of taurine.NEKTON-Biotic-Cat can very well be combined with other NEKTON products for cats.

Multivitamins for active birds.NEKTON-Fly contains 13 vitamins, 6 trace elements, 2 amino acids as well as calcium and minerals. NEKTON-Fly is specially attuned to the needs of active birds to build up enough strength and energy reserves for flying and laying performance. NEKTON-Fly encourages growth, efficiency, fertility and laying performance to a high extent and positively influences metabolic processes. Supports the body during treatments with antibiotics and sulfonamides resulting in increased vitamin and mineral requirements.NEKTON-Fly can be administered easily via the drinking water or mixed in with soft feed. Ideal in combination the NEKTON-MSA mineral compound.No other vitamin compound should be administered whilst using NEKTON-Fly .NEKTON-Fly has proved to be excellent in supporting the treatment of diseases, i.e. when antibiotics, sulfonamides, etc. are given; because increased vitamins should be absolutely supplied when administering drugs, to counteract destruction of the intestinal flora.Furthermore, NEKTON-Fly contains calcium which is important for healthy bone formation, for eggshell development and for growth, especially in young animals. Trace elements and a sufficient amount of minerals are also contained in NEKTON-Fly .The dosage can be quite safely doubled for a short time in stressful situations, such as breeding, molting, flight show, transportation, etc.

NEKTON-Elektrolyt is a feed supplement for birds to maintain a good fluid and electrolyte balance in the bird after heavy physical exertion. It contains important electrolytes that quickly balance fluid levels and help birds regenerate and recover faster after dehydration and high physical exertion, as well as after intense heat.Can be used to support after gastrointestinal disorders with diarrhea.

NEKTON-PRE-VITAL+ is a combination of pure brewer’s yeast (100 % Saccharomyces cerevisiae) and yeast cell walls.NEKTON-PRE-VITAL+ combines the advantages of the prebiotic and immune-stimulating effects of yeast cell walls with valuable nutrients from brewer’s yeast. The gut-stabilizing function of the yeast cell walls can lead to rapid and effective absorption of nutrients from the brewer’s yeast and makes NEKTON-PRE-VITAL+ a valuable feed supplement that can strengthen the immune system’s defenses and support greater vitality and performance in birds.The stimulated immune system makes the bird’s organism more resistant to pathogens of various kinds.Brewer’s yeast is both a high-quality protein source and a valuable supplier of various nutrients and active substances.Brewer’s yeast contains:Numerous B vitamins, which are essential for various vital functions. B vitamins are partly responsible for the nervous system and metabolism and have a positive effect on the bird’s skin and plumage. Birds require these valuable B vitamins for a strong immune system.Approximately 16 different amino acids, which are needed by the bird’s organism, among other things, for cell and muscle tissue.Various naturally occurring minerals that are of great importance for bird health. Brewer’s yeast is particularly rich in calcium and phosphorus.Trace elements that play a vital role in metabolism and are involved in numerous processes in the bird’s organism, including iron, copper, manganese and zinc.Proteins with a complete amino acid profile.The brewer’s yeast cell wall consists of mannan oligosaccharides (MOS) and beta-glucans, which can reduce the number of harmful bacteria in the bird’s intestine and increase the number of beneficial bacteria. In this way, a balanced intestinal microflora can be naturally promoted.NEKTON-PRE-VITAL+:a valuable supplier of various nutrients and active substances that can have a positive effect on the bird’s entire organismmay positively influence the bird’s defense mechanismsmay have prebiotic effects on beneficial intestinal microflora and promote a balanced gut flora in a natural waya natural product without synthetic additives

NEKTON-Algae-Duo is a natural feed supplement consisting of spirulina and chlorella.Spirulina is a bacterium from the cyanobacteria family, while chlorella is a freshwater algae. Primarily, spirulina can have a balancing effect on the immune system and support the bird’s natural defenses. Thanks to its valuable nutrients and vital substances, it can also help strengthen weakened birds. Chlorella, in turn, can support liver function and help detoxify the body.Spirulina contains a very high concentration of natural vitamins, minerals, amino acids, fatty acids, trace elements, antioxidants, and enzymes, and has an exceptionally high protein content. It consists of nearly two thirds protein, which is easily digestible and contains all essential amino acids. Hardly any other natural substance is known for such a rich and comprehensive composition.Spirulina can strengthen the immune system, support digestion and a balanced gut flora, help detoxify the body, and improve skin and plumage health. It also provides valuable minerals and trace elements and supports metabolic and enzymatic processes. Spirulina is particularly recommended during breeding and molting periods.Chlorella is characterized by a high nutrient density with vitamins, proteins, essential amino acids, and secondary plant compounds. It supports the immune system, metabolism, skin, and plumage, promotes blood formation and oxygen supply due to its high chlorophyll content, aids in detoxification of the body, and contributes to healthy digestion. Its use is especially beneficial for weakened, young, or highly stressed birds, as well as after medical treatments.NEKTON-Algae-Duo combines the benefits of spirulina and chlorella and represents a high-quality complementary feed for targeted support of health, performance, and regeneration.

Vitamin compound to improve skin and coat for all cats.NEKTON-Cat-H includes all essential vitamins, a high amount of biotin, more than 23,000 µg and the essential amino acid arginine and the amino-sulfonic acid taurine. NEKTON-Cat-H utilizes its varied composition optimally for cat's bodies.NEKTON-Cat-H ensures a beautiful shiny coats and excellent fur development. NEKTON-Cat-H is highly-effective against rough, brittle coats, unnaturally light spots or skin changes. Even less known effects of biotin deficiency, such as weakness, diarrhea, stress and paralysis are successfully combated by NEKTON-Cat-H.No other vitamin compound should be administered whilst using NEKTON-Cat-H.Cats are exclusively meat eaters (so-called "carnivores") and their feed requirements thus differ from dogs, which have developed in the direction of omnivores, and in a some aspects have a different metabolism.The feed administered to the domestic cat by people does not often correspond to their natural diet and does not always take into consideration the needs of this regular meat eater. Cats covers their requirements for meat, fat, trace elements, vitamins and minerals almost naturally by consuming their whole prey, including the coat, entrails, stomach and intestines.The features of cat nutrition lie in vitamins, proteins and minerals. This specialization of the metabolism can lead to a shortage of the essential dietary constituents, particularly under high stress (high performance requirements, shows, illnesses, etc.)As a coenzyme, Biotin is involved in a variety of metabolic reactions and is responsible for normal growth, normal feed rate and for regulating procreation. Biotin is particularly important for keeping the skin healthy and for preserving the coat.A biotin deficiency also appears as dried up saliva around the mouth and secretion around the eyes, as a flaky skin change, hair loss, general disorders, weakness, diarrhea and muscular stress up to full paralysis of the lower body.ARGININE is an essential amino acid and component in the urine circulation in the body. Both young and older cats require arginine. If this substance is lacking, ammonia concentration in the blood set in, which can be connected to salivation, vomiting, shivering, convulsions, unconsciousness and death within a short time and is often confused with the animal being poisoned.TAURINE is also an essential amino-sulfonic acid, the intake of which is necessary for nutrition. Cats can only generate the required bile acids with a sufficient supply of taurine. Furthermore, the taurine intake needs to be increased with the increasing intake of fiber in the feed. A taurine deficiency ca lead to impaired fertility. The young of mothers' with a taurine deficiency exhibit multiple neurological defects, eye defects and blindness.

Mixed pollen are diverse in their composition.They naturally contain, among other things, short-chain proteins, up to 20 amino acids, polyunsaturated fatty acids, minerals and trace elements such as iron, copper, manganese, zinc and silica (silicon), as well as phosphorus, sodium, potassium, magnesium, sulfur and calcium.They also contain vitamin C, vitamins B1, 2, 6 and 12, as well as biotin, vitamins A, D and E, folic acid, niacin, pantothenic acid, antioxidant polyphenols such as flavonoids, natural sugars, enzymes, plant hormones and many other beneficial substances.In addition, flower pollen possess antiviral and antibacterial properties.They support the immune system and have a beneficial effect on blood values. They also promote vitality and well-being, and the diverse composition of the pollen can serve as an energy booster.Due to the various enzymes they contain, flower pollen help the bird’s body to better absorb nutrients from feed. They act like a natural vaccine, as they can have a preventive effect against diseases and stimulate physical energy.Oregano acts as a natural antibiotic to a much greater extent than other herbs and can strengthen the bird’s immune system. Oregano may have a positive effect on the digestive system, stimulate appetite, promote bile juice and enzyme secretion in the intestinal area, and support the natural intestinal flora.Since the collected flower pollen originate from different plants, this results in a wide range of ingredients that are present in a favorable ratio to one another.Depending on the type of plant, the color of the pollen grains ranges from light yellow to black in all conceivable shades.Benefitsnatural energy sourcesupports healthy digestionmay strengthen the immune systemsupplies bones with mineralsbeneficial for the cardiovascular systemmay stabilize the natural intestinal floraNEKTON Pollen-Power with Oregano rich in:proteinsamino acidsmineralscarbohydratespolyunsaturated fatty acidsvitaminsand many other beneficial substancesFeeding recommendation0.2 g (1/4 measuring spoon) for small birds0.4 g (1/2 measuring spoon) for medium-sized birds0.7 g (1 level measuring spoon) for large birdsMix NEKTON Pollen-Power with Oregano into the feed or offer separately in a bowl.In stressful situations, the amount can be doubled; overdosing is not possible.

NEKTON-Calcium-Plus 35g | Complementary feed for ornamental and birds of preyNEKTON Calcium-Plus contains organic calcium and magnesium as well as high-quality B vitamins.Organic calcium and magnesium are absorbed very well and quickly and are particularly suitable for support during breeding and for correcting calcium deficiency.Calcium in combination with magnesium prevents interactions and their consequences, such as magnesium deficiency. The additional enrichment with B vitamins, which have a positive effect on the nerves, enables NEKTON Calcium-Plus to support balanced breeding and to compensate for nutrition-related deficiency symptoms.Calcium is important for birds in many respects. Calcium is essential for bone development and for the normal function of the organism. If its level is too low, health impairments may occur, for example muscle cramps.During breeding, females require particularly large amounts of calcium, as it is especially important for the formation of the eggshell and its stability. In the case of calcium deficiency, the structure of the eggshell changes and this can lead to the death of the embryo. The embryo obtains its initial calcium from the eggshell. For this reason, the calcium requirement is increased during the breeding period.If females are fed a calcium-poor diet over a longer period of time, the calcium reserves are depleted from the bones, which can ultimately lead to bone damage. Therefore, additional calcium supplementation during bird breeding is particularly important.CompositionDextroseMagnesium lactate

NEKTON-Relax - natural support for calmness and relaxation in birdsNEKTON-Relax supports birds in coping more calmly with stressful situations through a balanced combination of natural ingredients. It contains chamomile, hops, lavender and valerian root, as well as B vitamins and the amino acid L-tryptophan. These ingredients promote serotonin production in the brain and help reduce nervous restlessness, anxiety and stress reactions. The aim is to help birds settle more easily without having a sedative effect.Before use, a veterinarian should confirm that atypical behaviors such as excessive nervousness are not caused by a physical illness. Birds may also perceive unsuitable housing conditions as a source of stress. In such cases, the cause must be identified and the environment adjusted accordingly. NEKTON-Relax provides supportive nutritional assistance to help birds experience stressful situations such as relocation or shows in a more relaxed manner.BenefitsSupports the bird’s organism in experiencing stressful situations more calmlyNo sedative or anxiolytic effectMay help reduce atypical behaviorNot a medicationSuitable for long-term use to reinforce positive experiencesImportant notesFull effect is achieved after approximately 2 weeksFor upcoming exhibitions or shows, supplementation should begin 2-3 weeks in advanceRecommended as a course over a period of 4 to 12 weeksBefore use, a veterinarian should rule out serious underlying medical conditionsCompositionBrewer’s yeast, calcium carbonate, hops, chamomile, valerian root, lavender flowersNutritional additives per kg49,000 mg L-tryptophan8,000 mg niacinamide2,000 mg vitamin B6 (pyridoxine hydrochloride)24 mg folic acid400,000 µg vitamin B12 (cyanocobalamin)Sensory additive40,000 mg taurineFeeding recommendationSmall birds: 0.5 g (1/2 measuring spoon) NEKTON-Relax dailyMedium-sized birds: 1 g (1 level measuring spoon) NEKTON-Relax dailyLarge birds: 1-2 g (1-2 measuring spoons) NEKTON-Relax dailyMix NEKTON-Relax into soft food. Administration via drinking water is not recommended, as the natural ingredients are not water-soluble.

Natural, quiet, and practical – the Flying Saucer running disc for small animalsThe Flying Saucer running disc in size Large, with a 30.4 cm diameter, is a well-designed alternative to the classic exercise wheel for degus, chinchillas, hedgehogs, and other active small animals. Instead of a narrow running surface, the gently sloping disc offers a generous, ergonomic area for movement. This allows for a natural running posture without a rounded back and significantly reduces stress on the spine and joints.The closed running surface reliably prevents feet from getting caught or twisting. At the same time, the disc runs exceptionally quietly, making it ideal for use in living areas or at night. The robust plastic material is durable, easy to clean, and designed for daily use in the enclosure.Why your pet will benefit:Ergonomic, angled running surface for a natural postureNo gaps, no rungs – significantly reduces the risk of injuryQuiet operation – suitable for nocturnal animalsLarge running surface with a 30.4 cm diameter, ideal for larger small animalsStable, easy to clean, and suitable for everyday useDimensions:Diameter: 30.4 cmDesign: Enclosed running discSuitable for degus, chinchillas, hedgehogs, and similar small animals with a high activity level.Color will be randomly selected. Color choice is not possible.

The Pulsar scratching board combines design, functionality, and durability in a compact form.With its curved shape, this scratching furniture is not only a real eye-catcher but also highly practical: you can simply flip it and use both sides. The special CanadianCat corrugated cardboard is extra sturdy, formaldehyde-free glued, and ideal for strong claws – durable, safe, and species-appropriate. Whether as a stylish single piece in your living room or as an addition to other furniture, Pulsar adapts perfectly to your home – and quickly becomes your cat’s favorite spot.Robust quality – formaldehyde-free gluedMade from high-density, formaldehyde-free glued corrugated cardboard, Pulsar is particularly durable, odor-neutral, and instinctively accepted by cats. The textured surface withstands even intensive scratching – safe, eco-friendly, and long-lasting.Special Edition PURE WHITE – a statement, not a compromiseCompletely dyed in white, Pulsar becomes a true design object. No brown edges, no material breaks – just pure color and clean lines. This special edition fits perfectly into minimalist or modern interiors, drawing attention without being loud. Ideal for anyone who wants to integrate cat furniture stylishly instead of hiding it.Why your cat will love Pulsar:Curved shape – double-sided scratching surfaceHigh-density, formaldehyde-free glued cardboard – extra sturdy & safePure white design – elegant and home-friendlyLounging and scratching surface in oneIdeal for small spaces, kittens, and senior catsProduct detailsModel: CanadianCat® Scratching Board PulsarDimensions (L x W x H): 76 x 24 x 15 cmMaterial: High-density corrugated cardboard, formaldehyde-free gluedDesign: Pure white – fully dyed white cardboardContents: 1 scratching board – ready to useTip: Pulsar pairs perfectly with the Eclipse model – stackable, reversible, and extendable. Your cat decides how to use it.

Functional design with a systemThe Eclipse model is a spacious scratching board with a curved shape and clever construction. In the center, a precisely cut recess allows the separately available Pulsar model to slide in perfectly. Even on its own, Eclipse impresses with two easily accessible scratching zones on the sides and an elevated surface for lounging or stretching.Double scratching surface and versatile useThe freestanding wave-shaped sides are ideal for vertical or side scratching. The generous top surface is perfect for lounging, claw sharpening, or territory marking. The central recess also creates a sheltered space underneath, which many cats use as a resting or play area.Robust, high-quality, and stylishEclipse is made from extra-dense corrugated cardboard, ensuring long-lasting durability even under heavy use. The wood-look side panels give it a premium, home-friendly appearance. With a height of 23 cm, this scratching board also offers an elevated lookout point for curious cats.Special Edition PURE WHITE – a statement, not a compromiseFully dyed in white, Eclipse becomes a design object. This special edition fits perfectly into minimalist or modern interiors – eye-catching without being loud. Ideal for those who want to integrate scratching furniture stylishly rather than hide it.Why your cat will love Eclipse:Double scratching surface thanks to curved side panelsCentral recess provides a hideaway and play areaCompatible with the Pulsar model for flexible combinationsDurable, odor-neutral corrugated cardboard with high stabilityHome-friendly wood-look design for stylish interiorsProduct detailsModel: CanadianCat® Scratching Board EclipseDimensions (W x D x H): 84 x 24 x 23 cmMaterial: High-density corrugated cardboard with wood-look foil on the sidesSpecial feature: Central recess compatible with the Pulsar model (sold separately)Contents: 1 Eclipse scratching board – no assembly required

The Arkansas II is now also available entirely in stainless steel and is the ultimate parrot home. This model is also suitable as a "mating or wedding aviary" as it is supplied with a removable partition. There are also extension kits available as accessories, so that this model can be widened as required. Big feathered friends have enough space here. The scope of delivery of course includes stainless steel bowls, removable manure grille and stable castor feet. The stainless steel Arakansas II also has four outer linings and a "breeder door" for attaching an incubator. A gigantic parrot home in the tried and tested Montana quality completely made of stainless steel!(Delivery without decoration) The largest stainless steel parrot cage! Stainless steel bowls Removable manure grid Additional feeding door for nest box or bath house Extension possible Solid rolls Size (WxDxH): approx. 203 x 100 x 200 cm Inside height of the bird home: 187 cm Grid spacing: 25 mm Grid thickness: 5 mm Weight: 55 kg / ul>Suitable for all large parrotsNote: This cage is not suitable for small bird species such as canaries, budgies and cockatiels. Please check before ordering,whether there is enough space for a large cage in the space provided. All cages are delivered by a forwarding agency to the front door (sidewalk, curb at ground level).Please note that the goods are not carried into the house or on the property. This also applies to returns or returns.Since the shipping company will arrange an exact delivery date by phone or you can set a delivery date during the ordering process, you can easily organize the further transport of the cage yourself,because a cage consists of several packages. So please let us know your cell phone or landline number when placing your order so that you can arrange an appointment with the forwarding agent.The regular delivery time of the forwarding company is generally between 8 a.m. and 4 p.m. Delivery on Saturday, Sunday or on public holidays is not possible.Montana Cages - this term stands for fascination, ease of use and the uncompromising love for animals. Cages and aviaries from Montana impress with their technical sophistication and their thoroughly animal-friendly properties - a synthesis of innovation, decorative sensitivity and the right feeling for the needs of the animal species to be cared for. Montana also stands for well thought-out equipment and quality awareness down to the smallest detail. Special features, such as removable manure grids, screw-lock system of the feeding doors with bowls made of stainless steel, Montana stainless steel cages are not galvanized and have the original and sturdy caster feet are standard equipment for most models. The cage struts run horizontally with vertical intermediate struts. The vertical arrangement of the struts is intended for building or strengthening the bird's foot muscles.

The stainless steel cage from Montana Cages - the little brother of the Arkansas II. Of course, the scope of delivery includes stainless steel bowls, perch, removable manure grate and stable castor feet. The Arkansas I also has four outside linings and a "breeder door" for attaching an incubator!A mounting kit is already available!(Delivery without decoration) Made of stainless steel The generous parrot cage! Stainless steel bowls Removable manure grid Additional feeding door for a nest box or bath house Extension possible Stable castors Size (WxDxH): approx. 100 x 100 x 200 cm Interior height of the bird shelter: 169 cm Grid spacing: 25 mm Grid thickness: 5 mm Suitable for all medium and large parrotsNote: This cage is not suitable for small bird species such as canaries, budgies and cockatiels. Please check before ordering,whether there is enough space for a large cage in the space provided. All cages are delivered by a forwarding agency to the front door (sidewalk, curb at ground level).Please note that the goods are not carried into the house or on the property. This also applies to returns or returns.Since the shipping company will arrange an exact delivery date by phone or you can set a delivery date during the ordering process, you can easily organize the further transport of the cage yourself,because a cage consists of several packages. So please let us know your cell phone or landline number when placing your order so that you can arrange an appointment with the forwarding agent.The regular delivery time of the forwarding company is generally between 8 a.m. and 4 p.m. Delivery on Saturday, Sunday or on public holidays is not possible.

The Sydney II stainless steel cage is the ultimate bird shelter.Our feathered friends have enough space here. The delivery includes a removable manure grille and stable castor feet, also made of stainless steel. The Sydney II also has a "breeder door" for attaching an incubator. A gigantic parakeet home in long-lasting quality!(Delivery without decoration) Material: stainless steel Size (WxDxH): approx. 180 x 70 x 180 cm Interior height of the bird shelter: 160 cm Grid spacing: 10 mm Grid thickness: 2 mm Weight: 80 kg Suitable for: finches, parakeets and small parrotsNote: Before ordering, please check whether there is enough space for a large cage in the space provided. All cages are delivered by a forwarding agency to the front door (sidewalk, curb at ground level).Please note that the goods are not carried into the house or on the property. This also applies to returns or returns.Since the shipping company will arrange an exact delivery date by phone or you can set a delivery date during the ordering process, you can easily organize the further transport of the cage yourself,because a cage consists of several packages. So please let us know your cell phone or landline number when placing your order so that you can arrange an appointment with the forwarding agent.The regular delivery time of the Sydney's big brotherThe stainless steel cage Sydney II offers enough space for finches, parakeets, small parrots etc. Thanks to the pull-out manure drawers and the stable castor feet, the Sydney II is also very easy to clean. The scope of delivery includes plastic bowls for food and water, as well as some perches for the initial setup. Every corner of the cage can be easily reached through the generous doors. The Sydney II also has a "breeder door" for attaching an incubator or bathhouse!Also take a look at the mounting kit for the Sydney I and II, with this the cage can be extended by 90x70 cm! Size (WxDxH): approx. 90 x 70 x 180cm Inner height of the bird shelter: 160 cm Grid spacing: 10 mm Grid thickness : 2 mm Weight: 20 kg Suitable for:- Finches, parakeets and small parrots(Delivery without decoration)

The NEW ARKANSAS II model - the ultimate parrot cage as a double aviary!With our largest parrot cage in the double version, we offer you the perfect solution for your feathered friends. With an impressive size of approx. 206 x 101,5 x 220 cm, the NEW ARKANSAS II offers your parrot an incredible amount of space to linger.MONTANA attaches great importance to quality and comfort, which is why our stainless steel bowls are ideal for hygienic feeding. The removable manure grid allows for easy cleaning and keeps the cage clean and hygienic.Everything has been thought of here! With an additional feed door, you can conveniently add a nesting box or bathhouse to meet your parrot's needs. The New Arkansas has a total of four external feeds and a "breeder door" for attaching an incubator.And best of all, the cage is fully expandable should you need even more space.MONTANA Cages offers you the right NEW ARKANSAS attachment kit for this.The sturdy caster feet make it easy to move the cage around the room freely, so you can also rearrange it as needed.With a bird home interior height of approx. 200 cm and a grid spacing of 25 mm, we offer maximum safety and sufficient space. The scope of delivery already includes stainless steel bowls and perches for the first purchase.Parrot Cage New Arkansas:Removable manure grid, lining door for nesting box or bath house, extension possible, stable castor feet, perch & bowls included Size (WxDxH): approx. 206 x 101,5 x 220 cm interior size: approx. 200 x 100 x 200cmGrid spacing: 25 mmGrid thickness: 5 mmWeight: 198kg

The model Palace II is one of the largest parakeet homes worldwide.Highlight of this model is in addition to the separator an approach flap which is mounted above the door. This aviary has a partition wall, a door to attach a nesting box, four outer lining doors with stainless steel trays and two large doors on the front. The Palace II is coated with a AVILON® powder coating and available in the colors Platinum and Antique. The AVILON® powder coating is bruned-in at 220 ° C and guaranteed Non-Toxic.(Delivery without decoration)Size (WxDxH):approx 163 x 81 x 179cm (without panel)ca. 183 x 101 x 179cm (with apron)Cage-internal height:170 cmGrid spacing:10 mmGrating strength:3 mmWeight:130 kgSuitable for:- All parakeets and small parrotsNote: This cage is not suitable for big parrots or aras. Please check before ordering if there is enough space for a large cage in the space provided. All cages are delivered by a forwarding agency to the sidewalk, ground floor curbside. Please note that the goods are not carried into the house or on the property. This also applies to returns. Since the forwarding company can arrange an exact delivery date by phone or you can specify a delivery date during the ordering process, it is easy to organize the further transport of the cage yourself, as a cage consists of several packages. For this reasaon, please make sure to provide your mobile phone number when placing the order.The regular time of delivery of the forwarding company is between 08.00 and 16.00 o'clock. Deliveries on Saturday, Sunday or public holidays are not possible.

The model Palace II is one of the largest parakeet homes worldwide.Highlight of this model is in addition to the separator an approach flap which is mounted above the door. This aviary has a partition wall, a door to attach a nesting box, four outer lining doors with stainless steel trays and two large doors on the front. The Palace II is coated with a AVILON® powder coating and available in the colors Platinum and Antique. The AVILON® powder coating is bruned-in at 220 ° C and guaranteed Non-Toxic.(Delivery without decoration)Size (WxDxH):approx 163 x 81 x 179cm (without panel)ca. 183 x 101 x 179cm (with apron)Cage-internal height:170 cmGrid spacing:10 mmGrating strength:3 mmWeight:130 kgSuitable for:- All parakeets and small parrotsNote: This cage is not suitable for big parrots or aras. Please check before ordering if there is enough space for a large cage in the space provided. All cages are delivered by a forwarding agency to the sidewalk, ground floor curbside. Please note that the goods are not carried into the house or on the property. This also applies to returns. Since the forwarding company can arrange an exact delivery date by phone or you can specify a delivery date during the ordering process, it is easy to organize the further transport of the cage yourself, as a cage consists of several packages. For this reasaon, please make sure to provide your mobile phone number when placing the order.The regular time of delivery of the forwarding company is between 08.00 and 16.00 o'clock. Deliveries on Saturday, Sunday or public holidays are not possible.

The Palace model is one of the largest parrot homes in the world.The highlight of this model, in addition to the separation device, is an approach flap that is attached above the door. This aviary has a partition, a flap for attaching a nesting box, four outer lining doors with stainless steel shells and two spacious doors. The Palace is coated with an AVILON® powder coating and is available in the colors platinum and antique. The AVILON® powder coating is baked at 220°C and guarantees non-toxic.(Delivery without decoration)Size (WxDxH):approx. 163 x 81 x 179 cm (without apron)approx. 183 x 101 x 179 cm (with apron)Vogelheim interior height:162 cmVogelheim compartment area:approx. 80 x 80 cmFront door dimensions:approx. 41 x 99 cmgrid spacing:25mmGrid Strength:5mmWeight:131kgSuitable for:- all medium and large parrotsNote: This cage is not suitable for small species of birds, such as canaries, budgies and cockatiels.

The Palace model is one of the largest parrot homes in the world.The highlight of this model, in addition to the separation device, is an approach flap that is attached above the door. This aviary has a partition, a flap for attaching a nesting box, four outer lining doors with stainless steel shells and two spacious doors. The Palace is coated with an AVILON® powder coating and is available in the colors platinum and antique. The AVILON® powder coating is baked at 220°C and guarantees non-toxic.(Delivery without decoration)Size (WxDxH):approx. 163 x 81 x 179 cm (without apron)approx. 183 x 101 x 179 cm (with apron)Vogelheim interior height:162 cmVogelheim compartment area:approx. 80 x 80 cmFront door dimensions:approx. 41 x 99 cmgrid spacing:25mmGrid Strength:5mmWeight:131kgSuitable for:- all medium and large parrotsNote: This cage is not suitable for small species of birds, such as canaries, budgies and cockatiels.

The little brother of Sydney IIThe Sydney offers enough space for finches, parakeets, small parrots & co. Thanks to the pull-out flop drawer and the stable rolling feet, the Sydney is also child's play to clean. The generous door makes it easy to reach every corner of the cage. The Sydney I also has a "breeder door" for mounting a incubator or bathhouse!Also look at the mounting kit for the Sydney I and II, with this the cage can be extended by 90x70 cm! Size (WxDxH): approx. 90 x 70 x 180cm Vogelheim interior height: 160 cm Grid spacing: 10 mm Grid thickness : 2 mm Weight: 60 kg Suitable for:- Finches, parakeets and little parrots(Delivery without decoration)Note: Please check before ordering if there is enough space for a large cage on the space provided. All cages are delivered by a forwarding company to the front door (sidewalk, ground floor curbside).Please note that the goods are not carried into the house or on the property. This also applies to returns or returns.Since the forwarding agent can arrange an exact delivery date by phone or you can specify a delivery date during the ordering process, you can easily organize the further transport of the cage yourself,because a cage consists of several packages. Please tell us for the appointment of the forwarding agency when ordering your mobile or landline number.The regular delivery time of the forwarding company is generally between 08.00 and 16.00. Delivery on Saturday, Sunday or holidays is not possible.

The NEW ARKANSAS model - the ultimate parrot cage for discerning bird lovers!With our largest parrot cage we offer you the perfect solution for your feathered friends. With an impressive size of approx. 101,5 x 101,5 x 220 cm, the NEW ARKANSAS offers your parrot enough space to linger.MONTANA attaches great importance to quality and comfort, which is why our stainless steel bowls are ideal for hygienic feeding. The removable manure grid allows for easy cleaning and keeps the cage clean and hygienic.Everything has been thought of here! With an additional feed door, you can conveniently add a nesting box or bathhouse to meet your parrot's needs. The New Arkansas has a total of four external feeds and a "breeder door" for attaching an incubator.And best of all, the cage is infinitely expandable in case you need more space.MONTANA Cages offers you the right NEW ARKANSAS attachment kit for this.The sturdy caster feet make it easy to move the cage around the room freely, so you can also rearrange it as needed.With a bird home interior height of approx. 200 cm and a grid spacing of 25 mm, we offer maximum safety and sufficient space. The scope of delivery already includes stainless steel bowls and perches for the first purchase.Parrot Cage New Arkansas:Removable manure grid, lining door for nesting box or bath house, extension possible, stable castor feet, perch & bowls included Size (WxDxH): approx. 101,5 x 101,5 x 220 cminterior size:: approx. 100 x 100 x 200 cmGrid spacing: 25 mmGrid thickness: 5 mmWeight: 95kg

The LARGE from Montana! We deliver this particularly spacious model including a perching bar, four outer feeding doors with stainless steel bowls, a nesting box door, and a catch apron that prevents food scraps from falling out. The Castell Dome also features a removable droppings grate and sturdy caster feet. This model is also equipped with the popular landing flap.(Delivery without decoration)Size (WxDxH):approx. 100 x 76 x 186 cm (without apron) approx. 120 x 95 x 186 cm (with apron) Interior height of bird home: 172 cmBar spacing: 25 mmBar thickness: 5 mmWeight:76 kgSuitable for:- all medium and large parrotsPlease note that this cage is not designed for smaller bird species such as canaries, budgerigars, or cockatiels. Please check the footprint for the cage before ordering. Delivery will be made by a freight company directly to your door (ground level to the curb). Carrying into the house or onto the property is not included, both for delivery and for any returns. The freight company will arrange a delivery appointment with you by phone. Therefore, we need your contact information for scheduling. Deliveries take place between 08:00 and 16:00, but not on weekends or public holidays.The brand Montana Cages stands for technical sophistication and animal-friendly features. All products are innovative, aesthetic, and meet the highest animal needs. Features include removable droppings grates, rotary locks on feeding doors, stainless steel bowls, and the AVILON powder coating. The cage bars are arranged horizontally with vertical crossbars to strengthen the bird's foot muscles._Important note on determining the size of your aviary/cageThe Montana aviaries and cages are designed to provide your feathered friends with a spacious and comfortable home. Please note that the items in their original size often appear much larger than they do in pictures. Therefore, it is extremely important that you measure the planned location accurately before ordering.Why is this so important?Since most of our products are freight items, a potential return transport is not only extremely costly but also causes unnecessary CO2 emissions. The return will be on a European pallet, and the return costs are not included in our calculations. Unfortunately, these costs must be borne by the buyer. However, we want to emphasize that this helps keep our prices competitive and is in the best interest of customers who have measured accurately beforehand.Our tip:Please measure the planned location for your new aviary/cage carefully to ensure that the product fits perfectly and unnecessary returns are avoided. This will not only save you costs but also contribute to environmental protection.

Montana Cages - Die neueste Generation des meistverkauften Modells aus der "Classic-Line". Das neue Türschloss sowie das neue Futtertürenschließsystem und die super stabilen Rollen aus Metall setzen neue Akzente. Das Spielplatzdach verfügt nun über zwei Etagen und bietet somit noch mehr Spielmöglichkeiten für unsere gefiederten Freunde. Wir liefern Ihnen den neuen Hacienda Play mit Spielplatzdach inklusive Sitzstange, vier Außenfuttertüren mit Schalen aus Edelstahl, Nistkastentüre sowie einer Auffangschürze, die das Herausfallen von Futterresten vermeidet. Der Hacienda Play mit Spielplatzdach besitzt zudem ein entfernbares Kotgitter und eine entfernbare Schublade unterhalb des Spielplatzes.(Lieferung ohne Dekoration)EdelstahlfutternäpfeHolzsitzstangeFreisitz auf dem Käfig mit EdelstahnäpfenAuffangschürze im Lieferumfang enthaltenSchwermetallfreie AVILON-PulverbeschichtungGröße (BxTxH): ca. 100 x 76 x 196cm (ohne Schürze) / ca. 120 x 95 x 196 cm (mit Schürze)Vogelheim-Innenhöhe: 151 cmGitterabstand: 25 mmGitterstärke: 5 mm Gewicht: 80 kgGeeignet für alle mittleren PapageienBitte beachten Sie, dass dieser Käfig nicht für kleinere Vogelarten wie Kanarienvögel, Wellensittiche oder Nymphensittiche konzipiert ist. Prüfen Sie vor der Bestellung die Stellfläche für den Käfig. Die Lieferung erfolgt durch eine Spedition bis vor Ihre Haustür (ebenerdig bis zur Bordsteinkante). Ein Tragen in das Haus oder auf das Grundstück ist nicht enthalten, sowohl bei der Lieferung als auch bei eventuellen Rücksendungen. Die Spedition wird mit Ihnen telefonisch einen Liefertermin vereinbaren. Daher benötigen wir für die Terminabstimmung Ihre Kontaktinformationen. Zustellungen erfolgen zwischen 08:00 und 16:00 Uhr, jedoch nicht am Wochenende oder an Feiertagen.Die Marke Montana Cages steht für technische Raffinesse und tiergerechte Eigenschaften. Alle Produkte sind innovativ, ästhetisch und erfüllen höchste Tierbedürfnisse. Zu den Merkmalen gehören herausnehmbare Kotgitter, Drehverschlüsse an Futtertüren, Edelstahlschalen und die AVILON-Pulverbeschichtung. Die Käfigstreben sind waagerecht mit vertikalen Zwischenstreben angeordnet, die zur Stärkung der Fußmuskulatur des Vogels beitragen._Wichtiger Hinweis zur Größenbestimmung Ihrer Voliere/KäfigDie Montana Volieren und Käfige sind so konzipiert, dass sie Ihren gefiederten Freunden ein großzügiges und komfortables Zuhause bieten. Bitte beachten Sie, dass die Artikel in Originalgröße oft viel größer wirken, als sie auf Bildern erscheinen. Daher ist es äußerst wichtig, dass Sie vor der Bestellung den geplanten Standort genau ausmessen.Warum ist das so wichtig?Da es sich bei unseren Produkten meistens um Speditionsware handelt, ist ein möglicher Rücktransport nicht nur extrem kostenintensiv, sondern verursacht auch unnötige CO2-Emissionen. Die Rücksendung erfolgt auf Europalette und die Rücksendekosten sind in unserer Kalkulation nicht berücksichtigt. Diese Kosten müssen leider zu Lasten des Käufers gehen. Wir möchten jedoch betonen, dass dies dazu beiträgt, unsere Preise wettbewerbsfähig zu halten und im besten Interesse der Kunden, die vorab genau gemessen haben.Unser Tipp:Bitte messen Sie den geplanten Aufstellort Ihrer neuen Voliere/Ihres neuen Käfigs sorgfältig aus, um sicherzustellen, dass das Produkt perfekt passt und unnötige Rücksendungen vermieden werden. So sparen Sie nicht nur Kosten, sondern tragen auch zum Umweltschutz bei.

Der "GROßE" von Montana! Wir liefern Ihnen dieses besonders geräumige Modell inklusive einer Sitzstange, vier Außenfuttertüren mit Schalen aus Edelstahl, Nistkastentüre sowie einer Auffangschürze, die das Herausfallen von Futterresten vermeidet. Der Castell Dome besitzt zudem ein entfernbares Kotgitter und stabile Rollenfüße. Auch dieses Modell ist mit der beliebten Anflugklappe ausgestattet. (Lieferung ohne Dekoration)EdelstahlfutternäpfeHolzsitzstangeAnflugklappe über der HaupttürAuffangschürze ist im Lieferumfang enthaltenWeiter Futtertür für Badehaus oder NistkastenSchwermetallfreie AVILON-PulverbeschichtungGröße (BxTxH): ca. 100 x 76 x 186 cm (ohne Schürze) / ca. 120 x 95 x 186 cm (mit Schürze) Vogelheim-Innenhöhe: 172 cmGitterabstand: 25 mmGitterstärke: 5 mmGewicht: 82 kgGeeignet für alle mittleren und großen PapageienBitte beachten Sie, dass dieser Käfig nicht für kleinere Vogelarten wie Kanarienvögel, Wellensittiche oder Nymphensittiche konzipiert ist. Prüfen Sie vor der Bestellung die Stellfläche für den Käfig. Die Lieferung erfolgt durch eine Spedition bis vor Ihre Haustür (ebenerdig bis zur Bordsteinkante). Ein Tragen in das Haus oder auf das Grundstück ist nicht enthalten, sowohl bei der Lieferung als auch bei eventuellen Rücksendungen. Die Spedition wird mit Ihnen telefonisch einen Liefertermin vereinbaren. Daher benötigen wir für die Terminabstimmung Ihre Kontaktinformationen. Zustellungen erfolgen zwischen 08:00 und 16:00 Uhr, jedoch nicht am Wochenende oder an Feiertagen.Die Marke Montana Cages steht für technische Raffinesse und tiergerechte Eigenschaften. Alle Produkte sind innovativ, ästhetisch und erfüllen höchste Tierbedürfnisse. Zu den Merkmalen gehören herausnehmbare Kotgitter, Drehverschlüsse an Futtertüren, Edelstahlschalen und die AVILON-Pulverbeschichtung. Die Käfigstreben sind waagerecht mit vertikalen Zwischenstreben angeordnet, die zur Stärkung der Fußmuskulatur des Vogels beitragen._Wichtiger Hinweis zur Größenbestimmung Ihrer Voliere/KäfigDie Montana Volieren und Käfige sind so konzipiert, dass sie Ihren gefiederten Freunden ein großzügiges und komfortables Zuhause bieten. Bitte beachten Sie, dass die Artikel in Originalgröße oft viel größer wirken, als sie auf Bildern erscheinen. Daher ist es äußerst wichtig, dass Sie vor der Bestellung den geplanten Standort genau ausmessen.Warum ist das so wichtig?Da es sich bei unseren Produkten meistens um Speditionsware handelt, ist ein möglicher Rücktransport nicht nur extrem kostenintensiv, sondern verursacht auch unnötige CO2-Emissionen. Die Rücksendung erfolgt auf Europalette und die Rücksendekosten sind in unserer Kalkulation nicht berücksichtigt. Diese Kosten müssen leider zu Lasten des Käufers gehen. Wir möchten jedoch betonen, dass dies dazu beiträgt, unsere Preise wettbewerbsfähig zu halten und im besten Interesse der Kunden, die vorab genau gemessen haben.Unser Tipp:Bitte messen Sie den geplanten Aufstellort Ihrer neuen Voliere/Ihres neuen Käfigs sorgfältig aus, um sicherzustellen, dass das Produkt perfekt passt und unnötige Rücksendungen vermieden werden. So sparen Sie nicht nur Kosten, sondern tragen auch zum Umweltschutz bei.

THE PARROT CAGE INSTALLATION KIT - ARKANSAS Mod. 2024-> The expansion kit expands your existing ARKANSAS by 101.5 x 101.5 cm!-> The mounting kit cannot be used as a cage on its own!-> The mounting kit does not have a partition included!Information about the ARKANSAS model:With our largest parrot cage we offer you the perfect solution for your feathered friends. With an impressive size of approx. 101.5 x 101.5 x 220 cm, the NEW ARKANSAS offers your parrot enough space to linger.MONTANA attaches great importance to quality and comfort, which is why our stainless steel bowls are ideal for hygienic feeding. The removable poop grid allows for easy cleaning and keeps the cage clean and hygienic.Everything has been thought of here! With an additional feeding door, you can conveniently add a nesting box or bathhouse to meet your parrot's needs.

The Denver is from Montana’s largest range of cages, unmatched in the pet market and ideal for smaller bird species like parakeets, conures and cockatiels. This cage is designed to give your bird a large home whilst adding a touch of class to your home.This corner cage features a swing down landing platform, pull out litter tray, wooden internal perch, large lockable front door and feeding bowls mounted on individual lockable swing out doors; for easy access and is mounted on castor wheels for easy positioning.Suitable for most medium to small bird species and parrots.Note: stated length and width does not incluse the detachable seed catcher skirt, which will add 20cm to each.Comes flat packed for easy assembly.Note: image is for illustrative purposes only; toy not included.Suitable For: * budgie * cockatiel * lovebird * parakeets * parrotTechnical Details: * Height 182 cm or 72 inches * Width 101 cm or 40 inches * Length 101 cm or 40 inches * Inside cage height 169 cm or 67 inches * Available in Antique, Stone * Weighs 80.0 kgs * Made from AVILON Powder Coated Steel * Bar spacing: 10 mmNote: Please check before ordering if there is enough space for a large cage in the space provided. All cages are delivered by a forwarding agency to the sidewalk, ground floor curbside. Please note that the goods are not carried into the house or on the property. This also applies to returns. Since the forwarding company can arrange an exact delivery date by phone or you can specify a delivery date during the ordering process, it is easy to organize the further transport of the cage yourself, as a cage consists of several packages. For this reasaon, please make sure to provide your mobile phone number when placing the order.The regular time of delivery of the forwarding company is between 08.00 and 16.00 o'clock. Deliveries on Saturday, Sunday or public holidays are not possible.